- Category:
- Other
- Date taken:
- Location:
- Keighley
- Exif:
- 1s f/8 ISO 200 50mm
- Description:
- Big Jim, closest to camera, passing Loco 90711 at Keighley rail station.
- Tag(s):
- 2015 October K&WVR Heritage Line Big Jim 90711 Steam Loco Keighley
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SteveHatch
I think its already been said…terrific image!
5 March 2016
Not sure I would even know where to start with critique on an image like this but all I can say is you have captured the moment perfectly and created a a great image. -
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johndunkle
What do you like?
This is a lovely image. I've been looking at it since you posted it - and debated whether to reply or not - as it's been a long time since I've posted on this site as a moderator or simply - "me", as a photographer. Anyway - this image has tremendous feel and feeling. The three points of red draw our attention, while the composition is just - well - "there" whether you are a train buff or not. The sky in the upper right third is awesome is just excellent. And your post processing is superb. The moment that you pressed the shutter button if the train was moving, was - indeed - "the decisive moment" - which translates into a moment in time well captured.
Next - about your post processing.... I have a couple of suggestions to have a play with... Read on...Helpful 2 2 March 2016What would you improve?
You have a bit of barrel lens distortion, which is turning the rails at the center as a curve... I'm wondering what would happen if that was corrected? How do I know? Look at the rails center in the bottom half. If corrected by perhaps 1.5-2% - it won't bother the original crop at all - and the left leading top rail will be bottom left image - which works...
Next... See the highlights on the left bringing your eye out? Yep - so do I.. Let's take a minute and play, OK? If you have Lightroom - let's drop a grad filter in from the top left about 1/3 the way in on a diagonal to the center - and drop exposure by about -0.6 - and then - hang with me - I want you to introduce a bit of "dehaze" in LR in that filter.. Watch what happens - the smoke turns into a key element... That's cool... If you are a PS user - you can do the same with Luminosity masks in your Highlight channels - but, it's a bit more complicated...
Finally - I'd probably add a High Pass filter layer - to nail the detail - which is there, but just needs a bit of distinction? How to do that?? Easy.. Photoshop... Copy your top 100% view-able layer.. Next - "Filters-Other-High pass". I'm guessing about 3.2-3.5 based on your articulated detail - which is awesome, and you can dial that back in opacity later.. Now - hit the BLEND MODE for that layer, and select "Overlay.. While some use "Soft Light", I think Overlay is best for this image - but play a bit..??
Awesome image...
As a final - I might add a bit of structure in Viveza to the smoke areas - but, that would be a bonus... ;)
Well done...-
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skypilotJohn has been a blessing for many of us on this site. Glad he was able to point out some improvements for you.
Helpful 1 3 March 2016 -
benstWould love to see the edited version Zozo, you say you posted it above but I cant seem to find it.
4 March 2016 -
johndunkleHi @Zozo - excellent updates.! As well, I'm so sorry for the confusing reply..! Trust me - I suspect soon enough you'll be cruising though my comments giving them a try, as I further suspect you'll keep on learning and posting - which, well - we are all still learning...!
4 March 2016
Anyway - again - excellent "redo" of a terrific image! I'm looking forward to your next image you post here as well - and I promise not to get "too carried away" in my reply.. ;) Sorry about that again!
I will also say - it's refreshingly wonderful to have you post back to a rather long original post of mine, as too often - folks post an image, folks give awesome replies - and that person "just turns to pixie dust" and never marks something as "Helpful", nor even replies... Zozo - my thanks for that!
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skypilot
What do you like?
I like this photo, and cannot see anything technically to improve. I really like the smoke coming out of the stacks, and the steam. Nice job.
Helpful 1 1 March 2016What would you improve?
Perhaps a different angle instead of straight on, to follow the line of the train.
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Zozo@skypilot hi, thank you for lovely comments and critiquing my image.. regarding the angle of view. usually i would have done what you suggested - angle the view. but.. most images of trains are taken from 3/4 profile, many of mine are too. i had foreseen and planned for the image you see here. the 50mm lens gave a really tight shot - exactly what i wanted.
3 March 2016 -
skypilotWell, it was a very nice shot, and I understand better what you were going for. Thank you for the response.
3 March 2016
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Spotfist
What do you like?
Nice photo, I like the way you have two steam trains side by side here and the bit of houses you can see in the background give a nice feel to the shot. Good work for a 1s exposure too, I assume a tripod was used?
Helpful 1 1 March 2016What would you improve?
I would really like to have seen a bit more smoke coming out the stack, the little bit I can see looks really interesting.
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Zozo@Spotfist thank you for your really kind comments. tripod? no, when a train arrives the platforms are very busy and a tripod would be in everyone's way. i used a post to lean the camera (and me) against - and prayed. because i could not guarantee holding it it for longer i under-exposed the shot by about 2 stops and hoped to recover it in LR5.
3 March 2016
As i used a 50mm lens and needed the post for support i could not include more of the immediate scene.
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Zozo@johndunkle Wow, what can i say, where do i start??
Helpful 1 3 March 2016firstly thank you for taking the time to help me with this image and for your very encouraging comments.
on tripping the shutter the nearest train was moving - but must admit it was slowly.
i also have to admit i got a little lost with "and the left leading top rail will be bottom left image - which works..." so i just re-edited to the best of my ability - guided by your comments etc.. in the original edit i forgot to tick the box to edit for lens profile - that made a big difference. but it did lose a little of the image, the original was the whole frame.
next came the grad filter and that did make a subtle but appreciative change to appearance. the "de-haze" in LR baffled me - i cannot find it, please point me in the right direction..
Photoshop for High Pass Filter?? i have LR5 but not PS. i usually (and did for the original post) use Nikon's Capture NX2 for this and for re-sizing (which i do before HP filtration). i have been slightly heavier-handed with the re-edit than i would normally be.
Viveza???
John i see a big change in the appearance of this image - thank you. from your comments i do realise there is still more to do - but not for me, at this time.
i'm no youngster and am still finding my way around photography and computing. to my mind both the act of producing the original in-camera image and the subsequent editing are an art. i'm very much in the learning zone and have a long way to go. i would like to attend evening classes for photography or editing but nothing is offered where i am. as an OAP i cannot afford private instruction/workshops. there are many vids on YouTube but i cannot watch and do it at the same time. i have been on Flickr and Ipernity but had no joy with trying for constructive critique - "that's nice" does not help me to improve. this is why i came to this site. thank you. zozo
the edited version is above...